Funny thing about Palestine and Israel issue is it's between Muslim and Jews which make me want to ask; is this a religious war? or is it a liberation war?
what i want to highlight (as i told lots of people last time), the strategy employed by both Hamas and Fatah is not working. The war exploded since 1946 and did anything change for better then?
if this is a liberation war, Palestinian should leave. Let's Jews have Palestine. Retreat and rearrange the strategies back as what Jews did last time when they get into Palestine. They play around with holocaust during WWII to get the world to sympathize with them. very clever indeed. If Palestinian stays in Palestine and waiting to be slaughtered, then nothing I could do about it. is it because of their pride? When you retreat, it doesn't mean you're lost, it just you buying some time to get back to drawing board of strategy. Remember Trojan Horse? how a group of retreat people infiltrate into a sleeping giant and slaughtered them.
if this is a religious war, then also Palestinian should leave. why? Remember "peristiwa Hijrah"? Mohammad s.a.w. move from Mekah to Madinah when there are nothing they could do in Mekah to win. Carefully strategize, Mohamad s.a.w. come back to win Mekah. and in the process He didn't kill any civilian. he didn't blow up any religious place belongs to other religion.
and as far as i remember, Islam never told Muslim to blow/kill/torture/beheaded civilian, women, children and old people.
Since when did Islam allow Muslim to butcher innocent people?
Since when did Muslim allowed to blow up other religion religious place?
Did Mohamad s.a.w. teach Muslim to do that?
Did Mohamad s.a.w. blow/kill any Jews civilian during his time?
Did this war is so big and important that Muslim just could neglect all what Islam had told them just to win back Palestine?
Did this war so important that Muslim are allowed to pray for Israel damnation?
Since when Islam teach Muslim to pray for other people bad luck?
Did Mohammad s.a.w pray for damnation of people who give him hard time?
I dunno about your version of Islam but the version of Islam i know doesn't teach all that. Cause the version of Islam that I know is a religion of peace. Religion that ask Muslim to question their doing, whether is it right or wrong. Religion that teach about value creation.
Now, back to macro, does this a religious war? or does this a liberation war?
on the other hand:
are we so civilized that we're barbaric and crude?
Thursday, January 08, 2009
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its not about palestine. its about the first qiblat.
Mangifera..........I am from Indonesia....you don't know nothimg...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for us here...better we erase israel from the earth.
Waalaikum salam warahmatullohi wabarokatuh.
itachi: so it is a religious war? yes? no? first qiblat? when Mohammad s.a.w. abandon Mekah, didn't he abandon the qiblat of muslim then? Kaabah is the qiblat that had been put by Ibrahim a.s. and Ismail a.s. stone by stone, didn't it important?
anon: where's your patience? did Mohammad s.a.w. teach you this? did Mohammad s.a.w. smack all musyrikin in Mekah when he captured back Mekah? Did he teach us to hate Jews? Nope, he said just to be cautious with Jews but not to slaughter them. again, where do you get this version of Islam?
Mangi,
as for me, a war is a war is a war. it should never happen in the first place. whether it's about religion or liberalization, war is a heinous crime.
people, especially women (that includes pregnant mothers) and children are being killed each and every day. is this what we call civilization?
any religion in this world does not permit man-slaughter/killing, be it Islam, Christian, Jew etc., i am sure.
religion or liberalization, i don't think the palestinian care much about it. it's a war. and it's killing their loved ones.
and honestly, i think both side are responsible for the war. just my two cent.
well umi, you certainly know how to read between the line. that's what i'm saying, the war is wrong. it's not for a good cause. and for killing innocent people, it's double the wrongness.
someone need to stop the war but from what i see, throwing another bomb or shooting another bullet won't solve it cause it had happened since 1946!
The self proclaim "pious" people may say this:
"Islam is a religion, as well as a way of life. Liberation also is a way of life. So, the war is both religion and liberation.."
The funny thing is, what actually do the Muslims hate about Jews anyway?
The country?
It's just a soil with boundaries.
The people?
Not all of them are bad, just like Muslims, not all Muslims are terrorist.
The religion?
Should all people have the right to practice their own religion??
The Israeli's government?
Which department?
Their leader?
So why killing the civilian?
The war?
Why stay and not evacuate Gaza if you hate war that much?
Jew's products?
Is it a sin to have good quality?
The violence nature of war?
So why prolong it, and why also respond with violence and not peaceful solutions which can saves many lives (such as evacuation)?
In the end, there aren't any logical reason to hate the Jews. So, why hate them so much if there is actually nothing to hate?
genzo view sums up my views.
he stole the whole thing from me because as you all know i am more awesome than he is
H AH AHA HAHA
genjo: all of this war affair had been so distorted even muslim doesn't know what they fighting for. was it for the civilian? was it for religion? was it for the country?
yurp, exactly my sentiment. it already tiring to heard about the killing every single day.
effi: you're the awesomest! HAHAHAHA.
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